Tuesday, 21 October 2008

Rain and DBSK critisized for suggestive music

Just when i thought Rain could do no wrong in the eyes of Korea, i read headlines in a Korean website that singer Rain and DBSK are under heavy criticism for their erotic songs.

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Rain & DBSK makes the headlines & are criticized


Rain's 5th album title track Rainism is said to have sexual connotations and the cane Rain uses at the end of the dance (which he refers to as a "magic stick") suggest sexual innuendos.

The problematic part of the Rainism song?
"떨리는 네 몸 안을 돌고 있는 나의 magic stick
더 이상 넘어갈 수 없는 한곌 느낀 body shake
make it Rainism The Rainism 내 몸을 느껴 버렸어"

"My magic stick is spinning in your shivering body.
You can’t go beyond my body shake.
Make it Rainism The Rainism feel my body.”

Also, the part where Rain sings "I'm gonna be a bad boy" is not well received by the public.


The lyrics for Dong Bang Shin Ki's 4th album MIROTIC song has been analyzed and it was found that the words "crystal" refered to the male sperm and "red ocean" symbolizes the women's hymen. Thus MIROTIC's "I got you under my skin" is highly sexual as well.


Rain and DBSK have always been portraying a sexy image. But did they just cross the line with their new songs?


Tone it down guys, if you still want parents to let their teenage kids go to your concerts!

Source: StarNews Korea

Related:
TVXQ's 4th album - Mirotic
Rainism is out!


36 Comments:

Anonymous said...

I suppose the Korean industry isn't ready for sexually fused lyrics - when hey, the American industry is full of that right now.

t-HYPE said...

when i saw rain's new video i thought it was a bit much. (i'm american) maybe he's trying to impress some american record labels, like, "Hey, I'm just as sexy as anyone else...see, look at all the white girls fawning on me in my video!"

Anonymous said...

wow... i dont know about such meaning behind red ocean in mirotic..most fans thought that red ocean represents Cassies a.k.a the fans (since pearl red is DBSK official color) *off to re-read mirotic translation*

Anonymous said...

Oh who cares about Rain's teenage fans - like he has many! The fans waiting to get into the music shows are mostly his noonas and ajummas ie. those with $$!!

Anonymous said...

it's kind of weird that they find the words crystal and red ocean too sexual but when micky says "i really want to touch myself" it's ok. maybe it's cause i don't speak korean so thats the only part i understand ^-^

p.s. i thought red ocean meant cassies too

Jessica said...

all pop songs (even ones dating as far back as the 60's) have some sexual inuendo in it, whether its subtle or obvious.

The Korean media (and fans for that matter) just need to get over the fact that they are not the sweet angels they think they are.

~~Jessica~~

lol said...

ROFL WTF IS THIS FAGOTRY?
And is start news for christ sake.

shoppingrawks! said...

what kind of bull is this.

obvs. someone takes the words
'open for interpretation' way too seriously.

since when was DBSK always sexy. HUG? someone show me. I would love to see jailbait!Min trying to be sexy.

and i am fourteen, and loving DBSK all the way.

wtfuckery.

sarah said...

they are taking it waaaay to seriously -_-;; ..the media is just using then to sell more papers/generate hits. tvxq is sexy true but hey they are definately not sexual (they can try but their dorkiness is too much..kekkee)

^o^ said...

i always wonder what 'crystal' and 'red ocean' mean...
now i know!

what about 'chrome heart'?

Anonymous said...

i seriously dnt see anything wrong with mirotic...and im pretty sure red ocean is the cassies...and yeah..as if sperms could go thru veins..they seriously gotta learn some science...but rain's one is super obvious...dude...just because u have been to america doesnt mean that u should be one

iRAIN said...

Yes, I think they've crossed (the Asian)line.

Orchidyaldix said...

omg....ok first, yeah "I got you under my skin" is sexy, yeah...but look how they move, now that's hot!!
everyone's commented on DBSK but what about Rain? I think he worked really hard on his album and image, etc...evryone knows that rain's audience aren't teenagers, most of the women who attend his shows or whatever are noonas and ahjummas...including me xD
That's why most of his fans don't care if he says magic stick or not...Not only now in American artists are being more sexual in their lyrics, but its something that has happened for years!!...I personally think that the media is trying to make a big fuzz of lets face it...three lines in a song...when worst things are happening in the world...
Hwaiting Rain Oppa!!!
Hwaiting DBSK hotties!!!

Diana said...

I don't much care for Rain and I've heard worse lyrics elsewhere. To be honest I found them rather cheesy and boring. Whoever wrote that needs to go back to school on that "analysis" of Mirotic, honestly the connection just does not work in any way shape or form in the lyric as a whole. "Under my skin" is a common phrase in the english speaking world denoting something one just cannot get rid of no matter how hard they try, context determines it's meaning in individual usage. And good god I am not going to go on because this is ridiculous. I have a Literature and Ideology Midterm to worry about and the only reason I even responded is because it's funny in a sad sad way, and I'm running on about an hour of sleep, I do odd things when this combination occurs.

Anonymous said...

such sick minds the netizens have...

Anonymous said...

and they didn't say anything about the part where junsu (in ENGLISH) says "girl you know you go down on me" ... alrighty then

Anonymous said...

Guys, knock it off. There are almost 50 million Koreans, living in a country the size of (the US state/province ) Indianna, obviously they understand reproduction. They just don't wear it on their sleeves. This is why a big batch of us (Meeguks) have pulled away from the US culture, and are saturated in Korean.

Vic in Long Beach.

Anonymous said...

"I got you under my skin" is sexual? There's an old song with that title. When you would say someone is under your skin it meant that you can't forget them and they become a part of you.

In "Rainism" it seemed obvious the "magic stick" was the cane that moved even when Rain was not holding on to it, which made it a magic stick, and the power of Rainsim would go whirling through your body and you couldn't help it.

Anonymous said...

This is what happens when Koreans try to understand English their way.

Anonymous said...

Yea, I agree sadly this is the result of Americanization, I'd rather not see it happen, as sad as it sounds since it sort of ruins the pop culture there, some is good, but too much is never a good thing

Anonymous said...

That's so weird.. DBSK's song isn't sexual at all!
Rain's new song isn't very sexual but the MV and the lyrics doesn't seem to fit together.. but it's not 'sexual' to me..
Maybe 'cause I live in America and I see everyone around me with the sexy, 'sexual' image.. but that's not even sexual YET.

Kim said...

Really? This is news? REALLY?!? This is really, really sad. They really need to stop this craziness because that's what it is; CRAZY!

Besides, people seem to forget that they are GROWN MEN. They are NOT teeny-boppers! If they have teen fans, fine. Now they are targeting people their age and above, not teens. I would like to think we as adults can handle some sexual UNDERTONES but it seems like we can't.

Hearts said...

Okay, I can see how Rain's lyrics are sexual, but compared to the songs over here, DBSK's lyrics are NOTHING.
I mean you turn on the radio in America and you hear stuff like;
"I WANNA L-L-L-LICK YOU FROM YOUR HEAD TO YOUR TOES"
Or
"YOU CAN DO IT PUT YOUR BACK INTO IT *moaning*"

Okay, let me just say, I am PERVERT, if my friend says something as simple as "I put it in there"
I will burst out laughing, and I never ONCE thought "crystal" or "red sea" was sexualy suggestive, AT ALL.
As for "I got you under my skin"
I can see if a female were to sing that, it could be sexualy suggestive.
And at least The Boys' songs aren't about getting into someone's pants, they actualy make adorable songs about falling in love/wanting to love someone DDD:

As for 'toning it down'
I don't think they need to at all, they are so adorable and totally not perverted as they are now DD:

annoy said...

My God!! Are we transported to the Ice Age or Stone Age time?? Gosh!! please, please STOP ACTING LIKE A VIRGIN!!

Sick of all the antics of the HYPOCRITES!! Stop the bitter bashing and fault-finding with RAIN/DBSK..
Gives RAIN his due credit for his sensational and awesome album and his electrifying performances...

kekeukele said...

open up your eyes and admit the lyrics suggest things they are not supposed to.

It doesn't matter if sex laced lyrics are often found and heard today in America or in which ever continent. That's not an indication that we should follow whatever they do. Stand on your own feet and stop looking up to the west, I must say.

Teenage kids nowadays are no longer acting like kids, losing their innocence way too early due to these types of influences.

as for DBSK's Mirotic... if it is really true that the lyrics don't suggest as what being interpreted (about all those sexual things), it shows how the lyrics backfired SM then. They intended to mean other thing but people get them interpreted the other way around.

read the lyrics carefully and you'll see that it somehow meant to condemn Cassiopeia. Such a pity to see fangirls singing and chanting to the song which is on the very first place intended to degrade them, the fans of DBSK. If that's not enough, see the MV then. A witch in a red attire? Hah~

Anonymous said...

i think they're just thinking about it to far. it's just a song..
why does it must be analyzed that way??

Anonymous said...

OMG..when i heard diz...i juz had to re-read the translation of MIROTIC over and over again..kinda suprise it does seem to have the 'sexual' thingy...
but hey..it means their songs are more mature...people still love em..

well..we have different opinions about the lyrics...so who cares...
the song is still one of my fav...

DBSK HWAITING...!!!! (^_^)

paint*it*black~ said...

yeah well that 'magic stick' in that lyric of Rain's is really suggestive many forums criticized him... but thank you for bringing up DBSK's suggestive lyrics as well I mean I find the lyrics 'i got you under my skin' is also suggestive but I dunno about the crystal or red ocean part... kinda makes Sarah Connor's version of the song seems up to par with DBSK's; both erotic... pls change my mind... still JaeJoong with ropes in the MV just screams bondage! >.<

Anonymous said...

The one thing that made Korean pop culture so popular was that it was an alternative to the morally eroded and emotionally jaded American pop culture. Korean pop culture was not only oriented to teens, but also families. People in most parts of the world can identify with family oriented themes, and enjoy cool and original, but not dirty music.

The one sure thing that will ruin Korean pop culture's popularity around the world will be overtly sexual themes.

yin said...

blame the song writer, not them. LOOOL !

well . Korea.. err. not just them. ASIANS - to be more exact - arent sooooo open about sexuality (yet). probably people just couldnt take in the change of styles and venturing into new genres and stuff lidat . it does sound kinda ... *ahem* but HEY darn lotta songs out there are suggestive too isnt it ? :/

Anonymous said...

@yin Rain himself wrote the lyrics to Rainism.

noV said...

both Rain & DBSK are gay... so, they are singing those songs to each other...

royaltyiyi said...

-_-" which goon so free and went to interpret the lyrics~ yeah i can see how Rain's lyrics is so suggestive .. but wat's with DBSK's Mirotic~ Makes no sense to me~ How suggestive can the red ocean be... commonly people will just link it to the red official colour~

If the lyrics are so suggestive, did it corrupt the minds of the listeners? Or shld i say are the listeners so corrupted to find the lyrics suggestive?

yin said...

YES . my second comment .

sorry but i dont care about Rain.

about DBSK's . the red ocean can always mean Cassiopeia. since red is their official colour. and there ARE an ocean of their fans. why must it be interpreted SEXUALLY ?

Anonymous said...

I really don't understand how DBSK's song can be interpreted as sexual. Junsu asks the question "What is love?" and answers it by saying it's a "red ocean." That's not sexual in the least! It's talking about how love overtakes you and that it's as deep and wide as an ocean. And as far as the "crystal" thing goes, the song is talking about how the girl they're singing to is crazy for them so it's like their are tiny bits and pieces of them that she can't get rid of flowing through her veins.

I think the people who banned the song are just trying to cause drama.

Anonymous said...

Have you heard Sarah Connor's version? It is very explicitly sexy. No guessing needed to figure out what she means. DBSK already changed the lyrics a lot to tone them down so they are at least open to interpretation. They did say in interviews that the concept of the Mirotic album is sexy. I was sorry to seem them go that direction and even more sorry to see Rain go further down the road to explicit sexuality. Both groups have tons of teenage fans. Rain's main title is Bi oppa (older brother). Glad to see someone in Korea having the guts to stand up to these 2 top entertainers. They will definitely influence the future of the kids coming after them.

 

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